AUBG Discussion on Goldman Sachs
Think about – culture at Goldman Sachs.
- How important is for the success of the company? Do you think it fosters talent development?
- Key words – High standards, competitive environment, feedback seeking, openness to critique, collaborative practices, support for partners, shared acknowledgment for accomplishments, personal responsibility for failures
Question – the traditional model for leadership development at Goldman Sachs.
- What are the main reasons for the need of a formalized leadership development program? And the challenges for its implementation?
- Apprenticeship, Informal, decentralized, on the job
- War for talent, from teamwork to leadership, size issue, make people better more quickly, need for scaling-up new business opportunities
- Skepticism, opportunity cost of time in the program
Comment on this – what should the program look like and why?
- Distinct physical location vs utilizing existing space
- Outside speakers vs internal trainers
- General leadership skills vs unique Goldman practices
- Classroom instruction vs developmental experiences
- Larger vs smaller classes
- Company-wide vs division based groups
- Separate classes for different levels of experience vs mixed groups
- Who should own the program?
Conclusion:
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I just posted some new trends in leadership developments
In addition:
Generational differences – Millenials will be the new executives
Rise of Collective Leadership – No more “heroic” leaders, “collective” leaders are to be important.Greater focus on Innovation in leadership development methods – new technologies for communication – no more elevator speeches – there is FB, LInkdedin
Transfer of greater Developmental Ownership to the Individual – you are responsible for your own development
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It should be a mixture between Outside speakers vs internal trainers, since if it is just internal trainers it will not bring the necessary extent of excitement.
investment banks are mere puffs and as such their operations should not be considered by the financial institutions
What would be the duration of the leadership program? I think one of the challenges when developing leaders in this industry would be high turnover. People seem to burn out quickly: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2012-05-20/banking-burnouts-blow-away-myths-of-wall-street-glamour
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I think that the best fit for leadership development program is up to 10-12 people
I would support this and will give the following example for a leadership development program at PepsiCo. The program starts with a five-day session for 9
selected executives at a time, in a remote and beautiful location, to cover Pepsi’s
leadership fundamentals, with feedback, in order to develop personal vision and
an action plan. The executives have 90 days to action their plan . They reconvene
for 3 days for coaching, personal leadership improvement plans, reviewing their
successes and failures in executing their plans. CEO leads all this. This is
also rolled out to other parts of the organisation through executive led
development and coaching initiatives.
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I would recommend a combined training utilizing external consultant for general management leadership and also e-learning on the unique Goldman practices
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It would be nice if external speakers come from backgrounds different from investment banking to add variety and new ideas.
Have you heard about the 70:20:10 rule? A study done by McCall, Lombardo and Eichinger (1996) conducted among over a hundred CEOs concluded that their development came 70% from job experiences, 20% came from interpersonal relationships and 10% from formal trainings. Companies that use it Medtronic, Essilor, SAP, Ernst & Young, KPMG, PwC, Nike, Nokia, Microsoft,Dell, BAT, Oracle, HP, Sony Ericsson, Morgan Stanley,Standard Chartered, NAB, Philips, Avery, Westinghouse, Holcim, Coca Cola Amatil, American Express, Bank of America, Rabobank, Goldman Sachs, ANZ Bank, GAP, Irish Life, Caterpillar, Wrigley, Mars, Coca-Cola, Home Depot, Best Buy, L’Oréal, BT, Boston Scientific, Maersk, Creganna-Tactx Medical, Eli Lilly, GlaxoSmithKline,Herbert Smith Freehills, Cranfield University, Princeton University, George Washington University, Nestle, and the Australian Federal Government.
Dima 11:06 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
I think that Distinct physical location in a luxury place might be more successful since these people arer used to be treated superiorly.
Dima 11:08 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
It should be a mixture between Outside speakers vs internal trainers, since if it is just internal trainers it will not bring the necessary extent of excitement.
Nadya 11:12 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
And I could add it will be great to be icluded individual coaching sesions with externel proffesional coahcers
Kris 11:13 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
It would be nice if external speakers come from backgrounds different from investment banking to add variety and new ideas.
Radi 11:15 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
Do you think they’d buy it from people outside of their industry?
Throll1 11:17 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
No. No way
Vesi 11:23 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
I would support this and will give the following example for a leadership development program at PepsiCo. The program starts with a five-day session for 9
selected executives at a time, in a remote and beautiful location, to cover Pepsi’s
leadership fundamentals, with feedback, in order to develop personal vision and
an action plan. The executives have 90 days to action their plan . They reconvene
for 3 days for coaching, personal leadership improvement plans, reviewing their
successes and failures in executing their plans. CEO leads all this. This is
also rolled out to other parts of the organisation through executive led
development and coaching initiatives.
Nadya 11:07 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
I think that the best fit for leadership development program is up to 10-12 people
Nadya 11:10 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
The program could be set: self lerarning fo rgeneral leadership skills and learning visits by countires for Goldman practices
tsonislav 11:11 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
investment banks are mere puffs and as such their operations should not be considered by the financial institutions
radiro 11:15 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
the award?
tsonislav 11:22 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
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Dessy and Tedy 11:12 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
Mixed groups, so that people can learn and benefit better from each other
Vesi 11:14 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
I would recommend a combined training utilizing external consultant for general management leadership and also e-learning on the unique Goldman practices
Dima & Geri 11:16 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
A bee for Vessyy and Nadia!!
Throll1 11:20 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
Where would this external consultants would come from. This are goldman sachs. This are the guys. Do you think someone could possibly teach them something?
Dima & Geri 11:28 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
Yes, but only acknowledged and highly successful leaders for other hot industries. I think they will appreaciate an IT guru like Tim Cook.
Radi 11:33 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
I’m thinking about the reverse mentorship program, introduced in GE, do you guys think this would work here?
Dima & Geri 11:15 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
Who should own the program? Definitely it should be a top down approach. The top managament should be largely involved because it is a major disruption and the message should be delivered in a definite way.
John Smith 11:16 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
Have you heard about the 70:20:10 rule? A study done by McCall, Lombardo and Eichinger (1996) conducted among over a hundred CEOs concluded that their development came 70% from job experiences, 20% came from interpersonal relationships and 10% from formal trainings. Companies that use it Medtronic, Essilor, SAP, Ernst & Young, KPMG, PwC, Nike, Nokia, Microsoft,Dell, BAT, Oracle, HP, Sony Ericsson, Morgan Stanley,Standard Chartered, NAB, Philips, Avery, Westinghouse, Holcim, Coca Cola Amatil, American Express, Bank of America, Rabobank, Goldman Sachs, ANZ Bank, GAP, Irish Life, Caterpillar, Wrigley, Mars, Coca-Cola, Home Depot, Best Buy, L’Oréal, BT, Boston Scientific, Maersk, Creganna-Tactx Medical, Eli Lilly, GlaxoSmithKline,Herbert Smith Freehills, Cranfield University, Princeton University, George Washington University, Nestle, and the Australian Federal Government.
tsonislav 11:17 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
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Dessy and Tedy 11:18 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
TROLLING?
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Alex 11:17 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
Unique Goldman Sachs practices should be popularized and linked to the general leadership skill. New managers would become familiar with the success stories in GS
radiro 11:20 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
and what about the role of the top management in the evolution of organizational culture
radiro 11:24 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
Do you think that the ongoing leadership program at GS supports emerging leaders
radiro 11:20 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
the question is what drives organizational culture
tsonislav 11:26 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
in this case – the highest bonuses in the economy
radiro 11:30 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
I disagree, they are all working pro bono
John Smith 11:21 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
Noe, Hollenbeck, Gerhart, Wright (2012) identify four major categories of development:
• Formal education
• Assessment
• Job experiences
• Interpersonal relationships
(from the textbook, Biatheszzzz!)
Kris 11:24 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
What would be the duration of the leadership program? I think one of the challenges when developing leaders in this industry would be high turnover. People seem to burn out quickly: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2012-05-20/banking-burnouts-blow-away-myths-of-wall-street-glamour
Tedy 11:27 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
I agree with Christan – more personal and family suppot should be offered. Investment bankers suffer more of burnout, deadlines and pressure. They need assistance more in this area, rather than just professional training
Kris 11:32 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
But does that fit with the industry requirements? Maybe an investment bank just needs highly motivated people who will spend a couple of years working there than leave.
Tedy 11:34 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
But why do we even discuss retention in this case?
Anon 11:38 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
I have no idea. Maybe it is irrelevant for the industry.
Vesi 11:35 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
this is so, people are very stressed and have to work overtime hours. A case study has been conducted indicated an staff turnover of 44% for 3 years.
Radi 11:28 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
GS are implementing this leadership program partially to tackle the turnover.
Kiril 11:29 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
So in order not to burnout why don`t we just leave them without a program do to their work. They would be much more productive, don’t you think?
Tedy 11:31 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
KK, in order to burn out, first you must burn – e.g be an excellent employee. What I am saying is that need assistance in maintaining work/life balance, rahter than just prof.training
Santa Claus 11:32 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
They are burning out quickly without a program now. with this program we will takle exactly this issue.
Kris 11:36 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
Maybe people do not go there with long term employment in mind. Spend a couple of years, work hard and make a name, get Goldman Sachs on your CV and continue elsewhere.
kmitov 11:38 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
Than why are you investing in this people if you plan for them to leave. I do not think it makes much sense.
John Smith 11:25 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
Doug Ready, Jay Conger, and Linda Hill (2010) identify four common traits among high potential employees:
1. Drive to excel
2. Catalytic learning capability
3. Enterprising spirit
4. Dynamic sensors
Source: HBR, July 2010 issue
Kiril 11:27 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
Why do we need the enterprising spirit? I would argue that people without that much of enterprise spirits, but more entrepreneurial could have a much greater impact as we have seen the in the last decades
John Smith 11:29 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
Dude! Enterprising spirit=entrepreneurial spirit.
John Smith 11:28 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
GE puts senior level talent potential employees through a series of four six-month job rotation program in different businesses, regions. 2 Years is the minimum duration for job experience development for senior people.
Anko 11:30 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
A tailor made leadership development program, led by externel professionals but faciliated by internels, wirh the participation of the high level management of the company (At least for the open and closing dates). The most talanted employees will be “awarded” with participation in the program and the chance to meet the executives thus taking the new iniciative for prestige and exciting.
Santa Claus 11:36 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
The talented employees are actually THE Executives!
Anko 11:40 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
Samta, gluposti na tarkaleta, you know! If the xecutives are the only talanted employees then the company is doomed. Is this the case?
Nadya 11:32 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
Greater focus on Innovation in leadership development methods – new technologies for communication – no more elevator speeches – there is FB, LInkdedin
Transfer of greater Developmental Ownership to the Individual – you are responsible for your own development
Nadya 11:34 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
I just posted some new trends in leadership developments
In addition:
Generational differences – Millenials will be the new executives
Rise of Collective Leadership – No more “heroic” leaders, “collective” leaders are to be important.
tsonislav 11:33 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
Who is paying for this site ????!
Anon 11:37 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
the CIA
michael snowden 11:39 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
in deed !
tsonislav 11:38 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
аз мога да правя барбекю 🙂
Nadya 11:39 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
WELL DONE!!! GREAT IDEA FOR FACILITATION!!!
Santa Claus 11:39 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
Classroom instruction is not on the agenda as a best practice anymore! Everyone is into experiences now! For reference – Marketing classes!
Kris 11:41 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
Totally agreed!
Tedy 11:41 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
Do you remember how the Wolf of Wallstreet relaxed? NOW THAT’S A PROGRAM!
tsonislav 11:42 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
I really think that the banks give such enormous bonuses also as a marketing – to show how extremely successful they are
kmitov 11:42 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
Yes, I would agree with that. But then again what structure do you need then. No classroom, no teachers, than what would be the formal in formal management learninv
Nadya 11:43 am on April 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply
Who tells that it should be FORMAL at all?